"GIVING THE LIE TO THE CHRISTIAN RIGHTWING" Howdy, gang! It's time for another radical-subversive, smutty, leftwing upload from that old electronic anarchist, Sax Allen, coming to you very much alive from Free San Francisco! In recent weeks, the Reagan/Nixon stacked Supreme Court has abandoned law and precedent in favor of extreme rightwing ideology and the Heritage Foundation agenda. They've begun dismantling the progressive changes for which we all fought so hard and long. They're sabotaging and undermining important gains in civil rights, abortion, search and seizure, privacy and separation of church and state. Because these rightwing noodle heads are so fond of making up their own "factoids" and because they're currently pumping out a bunch of malarkey about America supposedly being a "Christian" nation, and because as proof of this they're making up religious lies about some of our most intelligent presidents...for all these reasons I thought you'd enjoy hearing a few hot words from our founding fathers themselves. Note in particular what George Washington says! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The American Revolution of 1776 was to a large degree led by men steeped in the rational humanism of the Enlightenment who considered all established religion a form of barbaric superstition. Thus their insistence on the separation of church and state, which was universally regarded as the MOST RADICAL aspect of the American Revolution. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THOMAS JEFFERSON: "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned: yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To suport roguery and error all over the earth." -- "Notes on the State of Virginia" (1781-82) "...the priests indeed have heretofore thought proper to ascribe to me religious, or rather anti-religious sentiments, of their own fabric, but such as soothed their resentments against the act of Virginia for establishing religious freedom. They wished him to be thought atheist, deist, or devil, who could advocate freedom from their religious dictations. But I have ever thought religion a concern purely between our God and our consciences, for which we were accountable to him, and not to the priests." -- Letter to Mrs. Harrison Smith (6 August 1816) JOHN ADAMS: "Eight millions of Jews hope for a Messiah more powerful and glorious than Moses, David, or Solomon; who is to make them as powerful as he pleases. Some hundreds of millions of Mussulmans [Moslems] expect another prophet more powerful than Mahomet [Mohammed], who is to spread Islamism over the whole earth. Hundreds of millions of Christians expect and hope for a millennium in which Jesus is to reign for a thousand years over the whole world before it is burnt up. The Hindoos [Hindus] expect another and final incarnation of Vishnu, who is to do great and wonderful things, I know not what. All these hopes are founded on real or pretended revelation.... You and I hope for splendid improvements in human society, and vast amelioration in the condition of mankind. Our faith may be supposed by more rational arguments than any of the former." -- Letter to Thomas Jefferson (24 September 1821) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession." -- Abraham Lincoln "The government of the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion." -- George Washington "Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet." -- Napoleon "When a man is freed of religion, he has a better chance to live a normal and wholesome life." -- Sigmund Freud , he has a better chance to live a X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X Another file downloaded from: NIRVANAnet(tm) & the Temple of the Screaming Electron Jeff Hunter 510-935-5845 Salted Slug Systems Strange 408-454-9368 Burn This Flag Zardoz 408-363-9766 realitycheck Poindexter Fortran 415-567-7043 Lies Unlimited Mick Freen 415-583-4102 Tomorrow's 0rder of Magnitude Finger_Man 408-961-9315 My Dog Bit Jesus Suzanne D'Fault 510-658-8078 Specializing in conversations, obscure information, high explosives, arcane knowledge, political extremism, diversive sexuality, insane speculation, and wild rumours. 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